Talk:Guild Girl/@comment-38556904-20190718214832

Hey Lord llortaton.

Thanks for replying to my post and an even bigger thanks for being respectful about it. I see on some posts, that people can kinda get mad if someone rags on a fan fave and Guild Girl seems to be in that category.

Anyways to comment on what you said, there are definitely some things we'll agree on and some we just won't, lol. The main thing we part ways on is the feelings aspect; you support the empathy portion, I absoloutely couldn't care less about how Guild Girl feels, especially when she's on the clock. It's like the old saying goes "my heart is for my family, my b*lls and my brains are for business". She's here to do a job, a job she does well for the most part, and while she's entitled to how she feels, she needs to keep that in check. Now, from what I see she does this, so we have no issues when it comes down to it, but as for you accrediting more leeway to her because of how she feels about the plight of these villagers? I respectfully disagree.

Seeing people oppressed is a sad thing, and most people wil react to war torn people getting torn asunder with aghast. I would also like to point out that most people, at least from what I see, won't really go out and risk their lives to make that change. Granted, many will donate and petition and all that jazz, but when it comes down to the wet work? Going down and actually REMOVING said dictator? Yea, people tend to save that for soldiers and the like. Now, I respect that, just like I respect a persos loyalty. Most people put theirselves and their own before others; as it should be, in my opinion. Personally, it will always be me and my family, then my country; the first one is due to personal obligation, the second is because of my occupation. I knew what I signed up for when I enlisted and what could potentially happen to me at worst.

This is why I have no real empathy for Guild Girl, the Villagers or any adventure, new or otherwise. Guild Girl had an idea of what she signed up for when she took her job and even if she didn't, I don't see anyone forcing her to stay and deal with the job, pro's and con's. This is especially true if she came from an area that was harsher. Sorry, but you don't get brownie or pity points out of me because your job introduces you to people who you "feel" aren't very altruistic. If that's not the nature of their business, then they are under no such inclination to act in such a manner, nor is she for that matter. But, I can understand how she doesn't like to see women, children and men get killed by Goblins; I get it.

That being said, I also get that a Goblin is just that; a Goblin. Not a troll, not centaur, not a Barghest, not a cyclops, not even a person trying to rob you; it's a goblin. A goblin is usually about 2-3ft (if we're going by DnD standards) and they're not stronger than a full grown man. What's more, they're usually VERY cowardly when dealing with things that fight back and fight back HARD. Now, I know there is an infestation of them, but last I checked, these people are a VILLAGE. More still, they're a VILLAGE with a guy who does NOTHING but kill goblins, day in and day out. If these goblins are such an issue, these people should do something productive...like take a day off from being a victim (those that are healthy enough) and go talk to this man (y'know the armored guy called Goblin Slayer who lives right down the road?) and ask him to help fortify the town. See, what you see (I think) is a town full of helpless people. What I see is a town full of whimps who need to stop complaining and asking random people for charity and start trying to take the initative to protect their own lives; I also see a town full of potential goblin slayers (without the horrid past, mind you).

Look, this might sound cruel, but I'm a firm believer that if you're in a position to defend yourself (or at least try to) and you DON'T, you deserve what you get. Those adventurers in the beginning went in unprepared and died; it happens. I'm not saying they deserved it, but as an RPG player who has played all affinites, I understand what happens to a team who goes in unprepared or who has bad luck. I grieve for them. I DO NOT grieve for the man who cowers as a few goblins run up on him; grab a piece of wood, a rake, SOMETHING, and TRY. If you don't, you deserve what you get, man or woman. Before these people come crying and asking for help, I ask what have they done to help themsleves?

Now, they may have already been trying, I don't think this is the case, but they may have. If so, then I give them some leeway, cause it was a pretty siginificant Goblin infestation. But it's like I said; they have a guy who kills goblins all day, every day. I don't really see any evidence of them trying to emulate what he does to secure his own home. I also don't see them asking him; something tells me he'd volunteer his services for free. Call it a hunch, just saying.

As for Guild Girl, as I've said, she's entitled to her opinion, and as long as she does her job, she's welcome to it. Same goes for the mercenaries. They make their living off their skill and every one of them has a reason for doing what they do. If they want to do it for revenge or altruism, great, but I don't think she should hold it against a person who tries to offer his skills to the highest bidder. Sure, it may not be the "nicest" thing to do, but last time I checked A Dragon can get a higher body count than a set of Goblins. Also, and this is the most important part, "empathy" doesn't pay the bills. It also doesn't cast a healing or resurrection spell if you fall in combat. I don't think a peasant farmer does either of those things, either. Again, this may "lack empathy", but so does death and injury....and most of the Goblin Slayer populous, too, apparently. I don't see too many people running up to help these people constantly; probably cause they have their own monsters and issues to deal with.

I don't feel disdain for Guild Girl because of how she feels towards people who help; I just fancy her a prick for not liking people who don't help her with a cause she finds worthwhile. They owe her, nor that village, NOTHING and vica versa. If they don't want to help, that's their perogative; more power to them. If they decide to help (like they did in that one episode with the Goblin King), then that's awesome, too.

It's the same for the obnxious thing. She is well within her right to not like braggish men. She apparently likes the strong, stoic, giving type. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with a man throwing some pep in his step and a little bit of swag to the game, but to each their own. I'm also assuming the men who approach her are respecful, not all Johnny Bravo-ish. And I respect your opinion, as well, though I think saying "shallow" women (mostly) go for that kinda thing is a little off. Not the Johnny Bravo thing, the swag, thing.

There are ways to brag without being a braggart and I'm a firm believer that a guy with a good paying job, a solid appearance with nice clothes, a nice car, and a nice clean home can net himself a nice girl as long as he is confident in himself and shows respect. Sometimes you gotta tute your own horn to hear the music, but like you said, that's preference.

I agree with you; to each his own. I get that most of those people in GS's world are hard on their luck, but I'm not about to ask people who risk their lives for money to risk their lives for free; I don't care who gets hurt as a result (as long as it isn't me, of course). That's mean, but like I said, I prefer neutral evil. If these people are poor, use what you got; go with GS and set fire to the caves or something; let's try out various options. It's their home and they can't (apparently) leave it, so they need to spend the days arming up. Have the men train in their spare time and have the women and kids plant crops. If worse comes to worst, just LEAVE, d*mn, the servdom.

Guild Girl is in a position where it tears at her heartstrings, I guess (-_-), but whatever. She can cry on her lunch or on her break, or when she gets off from work. As long as she's in that office, I want her working, not giving these warriors the evil eye. I find her, as a character to be kinda "meh". She's there, whatever; half the time, I don't even notice her, lol. BUT, I will also say, I don't like much of the cast, Goblin Slayer included, so....

Thanks for responding and let me know where you stand. Until then!!